Ted Turner’s Math Problem

For the past few years I’ve seen a particular quote attributed to Ted Turner – media mogul who founded CNN & major promoter and financial supporter of the United Nations – with a myriad of sources cited for the statement.  Most of the quotes reference a 95% population reduction.  However, I wondered if it were really true.  So began (about six months or so ago), in earnest, a search for the true source of the purported quote.

After a few days of internet searching I deduced that if there really was a quote with this sort of verbiage, it was likely in an edition of Audubon magazine.  After a few false starts, I finally found a very helpful new and used magazine collector/retailer who was willing to indulge me in my quest by checking the tables of contents of issues I thought may contain the statement.  At last, it was found!  However, the quote does not specifically state the words “…95% decline from present levels…”, but the wording clearly amounts to same.

The quote in question is from the November-December 1991 (Vol. 93, No. 6) Audubon in a piece by Bruce Stutz titled “Ted Turner Turns it On” [pp 110-116].   Here’s a portion of the page [113] from which the offending quote is taken with a bit more context provided:

Here’s the applicable selection:

…If we had a much smaller population, and over time we could have an ethic where we had only one child, and over maybe 300 or 400 years we could cut back to 250 million – 350 million people… [p 113]

That’s quite staggering when one considers that the current US population is 315 million!  To illustrate that Turner wasn’t somehow confused with his depopulation suggestion, he states quite clearly that the then current world population was 5.3 billion (currently just under 7 billion) with a US population of 250 million [p 112].

With all the necessary figures, let’s do a bit of math.  To make this much simpler, we’ll round off to 5 billion (as Turner does himself in the selection above), assume a zero population growth (i.e. as many die “naturally” will be born) during the relevant time period, and assume the rate of population decrease would remain constant throughout the applicable time period.  First, we’ll take the ‘worst case scenario’ – the shortest timespan (300 years) to achieve the smallest ‘ideal’ population (250 million):

5,000,000,000 – 250,000,000 = 4,750,000,000

OK, so that’s a net reduction of 4.75 billion people or exactly 95%.  Now let’s take the total and divide by the number of years to see how many will be reduced per year (using 365 days to keep it simple):

4,750,000,000 / 300 = 15,833,333 annually

…which breaks down to a mere:

43,379 per day

Now, let’s take the ‘best case scenario’ (400 years to achieve a population of 350 million):

5,000,000,000 – 350,000,000 = 4,650,000,000

That’s a net reduction of 4.65 billion people or exactly 93%.  That’s MUCH better, right?  Now let’s take that total and divide by 400 to arrive at quantity to reduce per year:

4,650,000,000 / 400 = 11,625,000 annually


31,849 per day

OK, now we can all sleep a bit better.

Oh, but wait!  There’s been another twenty years since Turner spoke these words and an increase of (rounding) 1.5 billion more people.  Oh well…

Of interest is that Turner himself has 5 children.  Perhaps he arrived at this revelation of the need for such a drastic population reduction after he’d already sired his children.  Darn the luck.   Surely though, he’s willing to sacrifice 4 of his children for the ‘greater good’, for Gaia, isn’t he?  Oh, but what about the grandchildren?

Decisions, decisions…. What’s a man to do?

9 Responses to Ted Turner’s Math Problem

  1. Craig Bridgforth says:

    Mr. Turner seems to prove once again that hypocrites in high places are nothing more than self appointed standard bearers and arrogant guardians of the so called great unwashed. I wonder how pompous they will be at The Great White Throne judgment when “every knee shall bow and every tongue shall confess that Jesus Christ is Lord”.

  2. Carolyn says:

    Good detective work, Craig.

    I believe there will be a culling of the ungodly and Ted Turner and his kin will not escape the wrath of God against a godless, occult, demon worshipping, drug oriented society….for example:
    Rev. 9: 20 And the rest of the men which were not killed by these plagues yet repented not of the works of their hands, that they should not worship devils, and idols of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood: which neither can see, nor hear, nor walk:
    21Neither repented they of their murders, nor of their sorceries, nor of their fornication, nor of their thefts.

    Ted Turner’s mathematical culling is an absurd, speculative fantasy. What is coming upon an unbelieving, unrepentant world is not.

  3. Craig says:

    Regarding misquoting, history repeats itself:


    It’s soooooo important to go to the actual source.

  4. Carolyn says:

    Those who cannot remember quotations are condemned to paraphrase them. LOL It’s also a sign of old age.

    Continue reading at NowPublic.com: “Those who misquote George Santayana are condemned to paraphrase him.” | NowPublic News Coverage http://www.nowpublic.com/those-who-misquote-george-santayana-are-condemned-paraphrase-him#ixzz25NdSH3fh

  5. Craig says:

    In speaking with a friend today, I was made aware of a very interesting website:


    Scroll to the bottom, find “Countries.” Click on the country to see 2013 current population data, then look at comparative 2025 projections. UK and Australia are slated to be reduced by 50% each, Canada by 20%, the total world population decreased from 7.1 billion to 6.9 billion. But the US sees the most drastic cut, from 316 million to just 69 million – a loss of 247 million people!


    You can see a recent thread on this subject in the following:



  7. 30,000 guillotines recently purchased by Congress, approved as the more humane way of capital punishment – Revelation 20:4

  8. Craig says:

    At this point I can’t find any real evidence that this was done. Was HB1274 actually passed? I’d like to see some proof.

  9. Oh Ye of little faith….This is the best I can do right now

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